Piano price: Piano Brands & Piano Prices ... valuation of pianos

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About Piano Price, piano values, appraisal - and what a piano expert looks for :

One particular piano expert has written a book listing the names of some 12000 piano manufacturers.
Not the full quota ... Some friends of mine built pianos.
Not mentioned in the book. They weren't exactly "good" pianos.
And there'd be others like those still around, I imagine!
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Piano Price wanted? I get a lot of enquiry regarding old pianos handed down from a relative or purchased cheaply at
an antique shop somewhere; If one of the many rare brand names, having unsuccessfully searched the internet,
people then turn to the Piano Advisory for information about piano prices; Or for a bit of history on the maker.

Often we can help - and I'm always happy to do so, but there's every chance that no detailed information survives.

Piano Manufacturers, Famous Brands, Piano Prices :

Piano price enquiries form the basis for activity here at the Piano Advisory.
Owners contacting us are vitally interested in piano prices; So too are intending purchasers for antique pianos, professional upright pianos, grand piano models including baby grand pianos, small grand, boudoir size, conservatory or concert grand piano.
We no longer sell pianos, but in more than 50 years of playing I have owned a Kawai grand piano, Steinway, antique Steinweg, numerous other uprights including modern day Kimball, Knabe & Wurlitzer spinet pianos.
During my 30 years as an ex prof player/now piano teacher/piano tuner I've serviced a few Bechstein, Bluthner, Schimmel and Steinway pianos ... and played many of the best makes.
Among instruments being considered by those who contact us, used Kawai and Yamaha upright pianos are by far the most popular.
On the web site we present selected instruments for private sale by owners of prestige instruments, from esteemed piano houses such as Schimmel, Sohmer, Bosendorfer and Chickering. On the other hand - for the beginner a good Old Piano can be an absolute pearl.
Be VERY CAREFUL : Despite any guarantees you might be handed in writing, a badly made New piano can be a near useless musical instrument. Likewise, a piano price guide or piano price list in the hands of a non player, means "bad pianos" are often presented to children, by well meaning parents who neglected to seek professional advice.
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Found one web site with a list of 700 names of piano makers, but pretty much all you'll learn is the date the Company got started.
Wondering about the other 11300 piano manufacturers?
Well... some weren't in business for long and just didn't keep production records. And of course, much information about
many European makers will have been lost or destroyed as a result of a war or two.

As you can see, details about many pianos may be sketchy and for yours, there may simply be nothing at all.

But then, owners may simply be asking me whether they should consider theirs is "valuable" as an antique piano
and if it might be worth restoring?
In such cases I am forced to reply that "from the description given, though it may be a quite reasonable looking instrument -
I have no way of providing any reliable answer".

Even when piano "experts" are familiar with various makes and models, can you imagine the difficulty involved in evaluating
"unsighted" any one of 12000 brand names of pianos?

Among these, many will have been subjected to adverse Atmospheric Conditions, Rough Handling, Neglect or Vermin attacks
(Yes, even Mice find living conditions most pleasant within this musical environment - making their nests from the nice little felts
they find in abundance, not to mention all those excellent soft woody bits great to nibble on and keep our teeth sharp!)

So clearly, online pricing methods and opinions might be rather vague and with little bearing on a piano's true value.

Is it possible to appraise a piano without a personal inspection? (*see footnote)

In general, there are few guidelines to aid in estimating values and even an experienced piano technician's assessment of a
piano's worth might be based on certain personal preferences.
Owners will often assume their pianos are worth a certain amount, perhaps having noticed similar models being offered by dealers -
or from seeing pianos privately advertised at high prices.
But then, many of those sellers are forced to accept Trade Prices in order to dispose of them and as is often the case
with cars, boats, etc... "asking" price may be quite different to what the buyer pays for a used piano.

While your piano may be well constructed, well kept and working ok ... it's "quality" can't really be determined unless examined
by a piano specialist; Preferably someone actively involved in sales of older models in your local marketplace.

Piano Price ? You could ask some piano merchants to call around and make you an offer : )
Most know it's a complete waste of their time and will politely decline.
So you're looking at paying an expert say $70 -$100 - $150(?) for his time and a written opinion on
how much it's Worth? (call that "its Insurance value") or - let's get real : "what you Might get for it" privately (... if yer lucky).


In evaluating a piano's worth we consider such things as:
1 The type of piano;   2 Its size;
3 The make or brand name;   4 Age of the piano;
5 General condition;   6 Its Playability;
7 Operation of the more than 4000 action components;
8 Tuning Pin tightness;   9 Condition of the Bridges;
10 Keyboard appearance;   11 Clunks, Squeaks and Rattles;
12 Soundboard integrity;   13 String condition;
14 Musical tonality; 15 Potential for restoration;
16 and most important of all? It's "how we FEEL" about this particular piano.

Prevailing market conditions, economic influences and current buyer interest levels
must then be taken into account.


Whilst you may be reluctant to pay for a valuation, you can appreciate the difficulty of You being able to obtain pertinent
information by other means - unless you simply take note of Dealers comments and (...if they express interest in buying it)
use any offer submitted as a guide to piano prices generally and what determines your piano's "rock bottom" value.
*see footnote


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* PIANO PRICE ONLINE ? Since writing this article some years ago, it has been regularly updated.
A popular ONLINE PIANO SERVICE was found to be providing appraisals & classified advertising also.

I'm told that fees charged are reasonable - and from my visitors, there are no reports of any dissatisfaction.
If you want an estimate from a specialist, then for Piano Prices online I'd perhaps give them a try...